The West Memphis Three are Damien Echols, Jessie Miskelley, and Jason Baldwin. If she really didnotsee Damien on the road that night (which shedidnt) why was shesosure that Damien was not with his mother? Lets begin with Buddy. Hobbs was calling loudly at the children and ordering them to return to his house. and our Then, in 2013, Jacoby was summoned to court over the alleged confessions of Buddy Lucas and LG Hollingsworth. One mystery that has plagued people who have followed the case, is why it appeared that Stevie and Chris were tortured while Michael was not. The kind of man who abuses his children for sexual gratification sees them as an extension of himself, so it's essentially masturbatory for the narcissistic pedophile. And, is it just a coincidence that LG and Terry were unaccounted for that night and then, strangely, they both made public appearance right at 9:00 pm at night? If Michael had kicked Terry that could have been the impetus that pushed Terry to hit him back. YEA IT WAS BUT, I WOULD THINK SO, IN ORDER TO HOLD ALL 3 LITTLE 8 YEAR OLDS THAT IT WAS PRETTY STURDY, AARON: IN ROBIN HOOD UH, THE PLACE WHERE THE BOARDS ARE. VICKIE: SO THEN UM, II JUST GOT AARON OUT OF THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW. But again, why would turtles only be drawn to the left side of Stevies face and none of the other boys faces? UNLESS YOU KNOW NOT GETTING UP THERE AND LOOKING AT IT ALL. And why would Narlene have any need to lie for LG if he was innocent? It means its likely that he never went home. Jacoby knows something. The second that Terry would have hit Michael in the face or head, would also be the split second he knew all three had to die. According to Terrys ex wife, Terry Hobbs first wife had claimed in their divorce papers that he molested their son. I also believe that at some point during the attack, Stevie was hit on his leg by the edge/side of the board, and also possibly in his face, which I will discuss in a moment. Why would he ask Terry where Stevie was if he literally had seen Stevie riding in the street with his friends a few minutes prior? In 07 or 09 when he was being questioned about the murders, just prior, he'd found Pam "kissing that Mexican". Mark took Chris home, spanked him for being in the middle of the street and not waiting at home, told him to clean the carport and left him there cleaning at 5:30. Billy was merely contacted to corroborate the letter, which he did. It really wasnt too difficult to do, at least for some of it. Why would she get in trouble for that? RIDGE: OKAY. I learned through my connection in the drug-trade that Mr. Hobbs preferred sexwith young boys. Pinterest. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE CLUB HOUSE WAS? This is a theory about what could have happened the night of May 5, 1993. BLY BUDDY UM, LEFT A FEW MINUTES BEFORE THE KIDS GOT KILLED AND SHE SAID, HE DIDNT COME BACK UNTIL THE NEXT DAY. Its also interesting that Narlene is claiming that Damiens mother is lying about Damien being with her. This is when Terry and David would have allegedly arrived at Lakeshore, seen Buddy and LG walking together and asked them who was holding weed. The boards were a combination of boards that had been nailed together as well as a pile of loose boards on the ground. RIDGE OKAY, WHEN HE LEFT DID HE TELL SOMEBODY WHERE HE WAS GOING? RIDGE IRENE SHE TOLD YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THE DAY THE KIDS WERE MURDERED? This report http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/shadi.html details an incident where Damien got into a physical fight with another student and made numerous threats against him and his family. And he said he was out riding his bike that his grand paw had bought him. TH & DJ supposedly killed the boys so they wouldnt snitch on them. If Terry was truly involved in a homosexual act directly before this attack took place, it makes sense why he would carry out an attack of this nature on Chris genitals. RIDGE: OKAY, DID YOU SEE THEM THE DAY BEFORE THEY GOT KILLED ? At the time of the murders, Terry and Pam had a 4-year-old daughter. However, therearesuspects and there is an abundance of evidence open to the public. The West Memphis Police Department and other officials are being accused of stonewalling the release of the evidence for over a year and informing Echols team that the evidence was lost or destroyed. had been during the evening on 5-5-93. In 2011, Jamie Ballard, her sister and her mother came forward when they discovered that Terry Hobbs claimed to have never seen the boys on the 5th. The kick, along with the humiliation of being spied on, would have made Terry snap because he did not stand for any kind of disobedience. The Blue Beacon Woods was connected to the Robin Hood Hills which was the last place the three boys had been spotted on the night of the 5th. This is where you ask yourself why Jacoby would lie to protect Hobbs and also why he would openly admit he lied in 2013. As Michael was carried back to Terry, he allegedly kicked him. The attack on his genitals suggests an offender who is ashamed of his own sexuality, possibly confused and angered by his own sexual impulses towards males. This means that the four could have been driving around the back streets for around 25 minutes and then might have pulled up to the Blue Beacon Woods sometime around 6:40. THEY WERENT SCARED THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY HAD SEEN THEM IN THERE ONE DAY?AARON: UH-UH (NO), BECAUSE THEY NEVER SEEN US. This would be something he could rationalize and also something that would anger him. In the beginning I thought it was TH. This would have been the only way they could have crossed without falling into the water. But there also had to be an injury there to begin with. Back to the timeline. She yelled for him to get out of her home. So, essentially, the boys were trapped unless they were able to get to the log. It seems extremely unlikely that one person would have been able to do this on their own in such a short period of time. What is most interesting, however, is that most of the public did not know that Chris was on a skateboard at one point that afternoon. YOUVE SEEN THE CLUB HOUSE, VICKIE: UH-HUH (YES) I HAVE SEEN IT SEVERAL TIMES. NO, UM I WENT DOWN TO THE MOORES HOUSE TO SEE TODD AND DANA MOORE AND YOU KNOW JUST TO SEE YOU KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND UM, TODD ASKED ME VICKIE DO YOU THINK MAYBE AARON KNOWS WHERE THEIR AT? As Brent Turvey wrote in his profile of the criminal, the man who perpetrated this act against Christopher is a closet homosexual who carries shame about his homosexual tendencies. They had been stripped naked, hogtied and beaten. In Terry Hobbs daughters own diary she talks about having dreams about having sex with her dad and that she is sure that he didnt molest her from age 15 years old to 19. In the first one, she is relaying to police a conversation she had with her sister in law about LG and his family and the way they all were behaving a few days after the murder. [Feature Photo: Murder victims Chris Byers, Michael Moore and Stevie Branch/UMKC School of Law], Alex Murdaugh Begins Prison Sentence With New Haircut, What About Buster Murdaugh? I'm sure he got it the worst from Terry, too. When police finally did ask Buddy where he was the night of the 5th, he claimed that he barbecued with his family and then brought over some barbecue chicken to Jessie who ended up not being there. RIDGE: ALRIGHT, AND HES BEEN FOUND THERE BY YOU SEVERAL TIMES? She claimed to have seen the two walking as she was on her way to pick up her sister from work but there are serious problems with her statement. Id certainly like to know the back story to some of those questions. He said, well dont you put yourself in that kind of trouble. What Buddy said was shocking. On the right side, it appeared as if he had been hit with something that was flat. Not only are their alibis remarkably different, they actually contradict and conflict with each other. In addition to Billys statements and the similar questions asked in the 2009 deposition that both pointed to Terry Hobbs being an alleged homosexual or bisexual man, the criminal profiler Brent Turvey claimed in 1996 that whoever committed this murder was a closet homosexual who projected a macho image. He was only 19 years old and this was a hot day in May. AND HE SAID BECAUSE WE WERE SCARED, AND THEY WERE SCARED I GUESS OF GETTING CAUGHT THEN AND AH HE SAID MICHAEL KEPT TELLING ME THAT IT WAS AN INDIAN THING THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO AND CHRIS SAID NO THEIR GETTING READY TO HAVE SEX. The three men ran after the boys, caught them and dragged them back to Terry. This is supported by evidence as well. He flat out states that there is "not one shred of evidence and noting in the behavioral backgrounds of Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, or Jessie Misskelley Jr. to suggest that any were guilty of murder." However, there is no mention of animal prints at the scene, as far as I know, nor car tracks found in the field next to those woods. 92.According to L.G., Mr. Hobbs snapped and hit the boy with severe force in the head two or three times. Shortly after this, Terry Hobbs noticed that the three boys were spying on the men. "[4], In November of 1994, more than a year after the murders of the three children in West Memphis, Hobbs again experienced trouble with the law. I think we have the answer now; Stevie and Chris appeared to have been tortured because they were the ones who were conscious. 6:00-6:30. Within a week of that delivery, I also delivered marijuana, cocaine, and crystal meth to Mr. Hobbs in Memphis, Tennessee, on Madison Avenue at a gay bar called J-Wags. If Stevie had disobeyed and never returned home or even waited a full two hours before doing so, he would have lost his bicycle privleges for two weeks, and probably would have gotten a pretty severe whipping from Terry. She tells police that LG said to her,dont tell police you saw Damien on the service road or you will get in trouble. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three, http://callahan.8k.com/images/500/1/150.jpg. So, here is my theory of what happened. I believe the known evidence supports the notion that Terry said yes, but that Stevie went inside to eat dinner first. This was an attempt, clearly, to make the discovery of the boys more difficult. Michael was almost immediately rendered unconscious ( I believe because he was attacked first). the tying up is part of what frames this as a punishment that crossed the line. Essentially, the statements made by Dr. Perretti are not much different than if Pam took her son to a doctor, had him examined and was then told by the doctor that Stevie had injuries related to sexual abuse. In fact, Richard and his roommate both admitted that they didnt even see LG that night. In fact, in 2012 the animal hair found on the boys bodies was tested; revealing that the animal hair was from both canines and felines. In my assessment, it speaks volumes to the guilt of Terry Hobbs that the children were tied up in the same manner as hogs being prepared for transport and that two of the children were tied up using square knots and figure eight knots, the same knots used by farmers and butchers. What this shows us is that Jacoby knows the truth. hilton garden inn oshkosh; was terry hobbs ever found. RIDGE: OKAY, UH, YOUR SAYING THEIR DOING THINGS LIKE MAN AND WOMEN WOULD BE DOING. When he was finished with that, I believe he then turned to Stevie. Terry knew that Stevie was with Michael Moore. Additionally, there is an ample amount of evidence, in my opinion, that Terry might have sexually abused all of his children. I allege that all three men returned to Terrys home and cleaned themselves up, which most likely involved washing mud off their shoes. A Calhoun County man has been missing for weeks now, leaving his family searching for answers. My theory is that Stevie finished dinner and took off with Michael again to find Chris, and Terry and Amanda then headed over to the Jacobys home. 9pm by his aunt, and lastly, remember the very obvious lie Narlene made, and even convinced her two children to make,on the standabout seeing Damien and Domini on the service road.. What that may mean is that the last known place that LG was seen was Lakeshore Trailerpark. Furthermore, the time the boys were seen doing this is also around the time that Aaron Hutchinson claimed they had first seen the men in the woods. I TOOK AARON TO TODD AND DANAS HOUSE AND UM, TODD ASKED AARON IF HE MIGHT KNOW DID CHRIS OR MICHAEL SAY ANYTHING TO HIM, TO THE EFFECT WHERE THEY MIGHT BE. Lastly, Stevie branch apparently told his cousin that Terry was molesting him and Amanda. In part 3, when suing Natalie Maines, he said he wanted The Dixie Chicks to be "humiliated" as punishment when asked what he really wanted out of the lawsuit. Hair found at . There is both an interview and an affidavit signed by Jacoby and neither of those mention anything about Terry propositioning him. UM, AND I WENT UP AND TALKED TO MS. MOORE AND SHE GOT AARON OUT OF CLASS. Thats four hours. It breaks my heart and I thought about it for 3 weeks straight after I got into the case. VICKIE: IN MIDDLE AFTERNOONRIDGE: OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU FIND WHEN YOU CAME TO THE AREA? David Jacoby is the key to this case. That 1 cop will have bumped into everyone in that southern, 90s, dick-liking community. Experts for the defense have claimed it is a bite mark and experts for the prosecution have claimed it isnt. THE MEN SEEN THEM. However, like I said, he makes what I think is a pretty good case for Hobbs' guilt, too. Also, we dont know if the four men were already well acquainted. Why in the world were the two men (or Terry alone) searching for the boys when it was light out if Terry had already said that Stevie could stay out till 8:00 pm? After all, it's the south. (1). So that would prove that there are only two reason why Jacoby would lie to protect Hobbs: its either because he participated in the murders himself or he knows Hobbs did it and he has known it for many years. When Stevie was pulled from the water, the left side of his face was terribly mangled. 4 Q. I cant be sure, but its possible that the interviewer in this deposition meant Roy not Ray. RIDGE ALRIGHT, DID SHE KNOW WHERE HE HAD BEEN? (1) Strangely, Buddy first says that he has a man who will testify that he worked with Buddy all that day and then later on in the conversation, Buddy claims that his boss will testify that he was at work on the 5th. He did not tell me who he was calling, and he did not tell me that Stevie was missing, Pamela previously told investigators. In accordance with the alleged confessions and as stated previously, I believe this kick would have sent Terry into a rage and he would have instantly punched Michael in response. AARON: IT WAS RIGHT BESIDE OUR UM, TREE HOUSE. Based on the reports made available to the public pertaining to Damien's mental health issues, this is a flat out lie. There was evidence to suggest that Aaron was telling the truth about the clubhouse because wooden planks were in fact found and collected by police. If the theory of Terry and David leaving West Memphis and heading to Lakeshore trailer park at 5:45 is true, then Terry and David could have theoretically ran into Buddy Lucas and LG Hollingsworth sometime around 6pm, since both LG and Buddy were last seen at Lakeshore that afternoon. Aaron adds a few more details to what the boys had seen down in those woods: RIDGE: UM, DO YOU THINK THOSE MEN WERE CRAZY? Most of the sightings of the boys were when the three were riding on two bicycles. Clemente said the first place a child would likely return to is home. If he was correct about the drug dealer, he could have correct about the other allegations. WE NEED TO GO TO THE CLUB HOUSE. Buddy allegedly confessed that when the four returned to the truck, Terry and David looked to the teens and promised to kill them if they ever spoke of the crime to anyone. In Jareds interview with Hobbs, one of the biggest red flags, according to Clemente, was that Hobbs waited until around 9 p.m. to contact the police and report the child missing, despite no one seeing Steven for hours. There is no way that if this really occurred, Terry would have allowed those boys go home to tell their parents that, not only was Terry Hobbs in the woods having sex with men and teenagers, but he punched his stepsons friend in the head for catching him. To me, this shows that Michael was not conscious or struggling when he was stripped naked and because of that, his clothes were more gently removed. It would explain SO MUCH about how Hobbs flew under the radar. When I rewatched PL1, Pam and Terry had broken up when she did the interview outside when she put Stevie's scarf on her head (she was in a red dress). We know from multiple sightings, including Michaels mother, that the three boys were on two bikes riding on 14th, headed to Goodwin St. at 6pm. Stevie also appeared to have a footwear impression on the back of his head; meaning that Stevie was likely kicked or stomped at the end of his attack. We know this because it takes 45 minutes to two hours to digest vegetables and we also know that the experts believe that the boys were murdered sometime around 7:00 pm. (1) When Stevies autopsy was performed, a partially digested green-vegetable like substance was found in his belly. If we have actualevidencethat the attacker did in fact bite Stevie in the face, then it is not a stretch of the imagination to think that the same attacker would also bite another child during the attack. WHAT DID IT SMELL LIKE DID IT STINK?AARON: YEAH (YES) IT STUNKRIDGE: WHAT IT SMELL LIKE?AARON: IT SMELLED LIKE, IT SMELLED LIKE A CIGARETTE JUST GETTING LILT BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT KINDAaron tells police why he believes his friends were killed: RIDGE: TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK HAPPENED?AARON: THEY UM, THEY WENT DOWN TO WATCH THOSE MEN AND. VICKIE: HE STAYED. All experts agreed that Perettis autopsy reports were written exquisitely. LG was actually a suspect from the very beginning, and its actually really shocking to me that he was not further investigated. Tragically, for all involved, no one seemed interested or would return their calls. ~Stevie had bruises on the back of his hands, indicating he put up a fight. WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY WHEN YOU GOT OUT OF SCHOOL WHAT WAS IT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT DAY? The question about Terry having a drug dealer name Ray could also possibly be significant. Its possible that Terry realized these knots could come back to him so he finished tying Michael up with a more traditionally used knot. However, she drove a small four door car and there would be no room to pick up her sister if she already had six people in her car. By 7:05 the three boys may have been spotted by Terry or one of the others. He will take it to his grave but some people in the town know and I'm not sure why he isn't and wasn't under more suspicion. According to Bennies statement, Terry stopped for a moment to yell, Im going to teach your fucking ass! The prosecution would mention a stick and Perreti kept saying, Or a 24. "I was yelling for Terry to get out, and ultimately Terry ran out of my home and ran downstairs into his unit. Then Vicki cuts him off and says he means "sex". 8 A. This theory is supported by evidence as well. Clemente emphasized that someone who wants to know why the children were killed would likely encourage any and all evidence testing, as its one step closer to understanding the heinous murder. Terrys own daughter allegedly told family members, including her mother, grandmother, cousin and aunt that she had been abused by her dad and two family members even claimed to have walked in on Terry abusing his daughter. Even more incriminating, is that Narlenes sister said that only Narlene and her husband picked her up from work. A couple of months later, French contacted the police and her landlord after Hobbs reportedly came into her home and grabbed her breast. Is it just a coincidence that Buddy mentions that the boys were hit on the back of the head, and that, unknown to the public, all three were in fact hit in the back of the head? I think Michelle died of a broken heart, possibly organ failure due to drug abuse. I actually believe there is a good possibility that at least LG already knew the two men. I really wonder if Aaron did see something, at a previous date. After the murders of the three boys, the general understanding by the public was that Chris had been emasculated and very meticulously had had the skin removed from his penis. During a special presentation at CrimeCon 2022 Las Vegas, former New York State prosecutor Jim Clemente joined Truth & Justice podcast host, Bob Ruff, and investigative journalist, George Jared, to take a deep dive into a conversation Jared previously had with Terry Hobbs. "It's my. DO YOU THINK THEY WERE CRAZY, AARON: THEY WERE ROLLED UP UM, CIGARETTES THERE WAS ALL KIND OF WHITE. Terry's guilt or innocence doesn't even cross that 1 cop's mindthe only thing that matters is NOT being discovered for liking dick. What this means is that the men would have only needed to briefly remove their shoes before entering the water. HE ALWAYS TELLS THEM WHAT TO DO AND THEY DO IT. 7 Driver? I thought, surely, if this is a lie, it will be discredited quickly by known facts and information. The act of tying up three unconscious boys who were near death at this point, was clearly an unnecessary act. Roy Taylor was the marijuana, cocaine, and crystal meth supplier for Mr. Hobbsand me. He allegedly admitted to Bennie that he had participated in the murders with three other men, LG Hollingsworth, Terry Hobbs and David Jacoby. We do not know whose pants were the ones inside out for sure and whose pair of pants was not, but we do know that Michaels shirt was the only one not inside out and none of the buttons on his shirt were ripped off. After Terrys attack on Chris groin, was when, allegedly, David hit Chris till Buddy believed he was dead. She hasnt seen him or Michael by this point. Not only was he punishing and dominating him, but he was expressing his repressed anger and shame associated with being bisexual or homosexual. This is the time when, according to Billy Stewart, he believes something sexual might have taken place between all or some of the four men. I then believe Terry went over to Michaels unconscious body and began to undress him. One of the 8-year-olds is Hobbs' stepson, Stevie Branch. Misskelly later recanted and claimed he was tired, ready to go home, and said what the detectives wanted him to say. THAT HAD ON THE WHITE TANK TOP. My feeling is that LG, thinking of a close and safe spot where he could go, would have asked Terry to drop him off at the Laundromat, less than a mile away from Terrys house. . These statements have protected Hobbs for seven years. There is more evidence, also, that LG never went home that afternoon. To corroborate this letter, Byers and Hicks lawyer and investigator contacted Bennies friend, Billy Stewart. : the alleged confessions of both Buddy and LG, Terry saw the boys spying and ordered the other three men to catch them. He was probably only 5 or 10 feet from the other boys, not 25, as some people believe and 2. The way the three boys were tied, wrist to ankle, as opposed to wrist to wrist, ankle to ankle, is one of the most unique aspects to this case. I hear you. Yup. My belief is that these items were used in the clean up. John Douglas claimed to have searched murders all over the world and could not identityone other timethat this method of tying someone up was used. At that time and also later, when Bennie sent his letter and Billy was contacted, both men were in prison, separately. Terry Hobbs was born in 1958 in Northern Arkansas, one of four children, son of Edith Raylean McLeod Hobbs and Joe Dean Hobbs, Sr. Hobbs, Sr. learned his trade as a butcher while in the military and went on to open thirty restaurants. If the cop has power, it's easy. Terry Hobbs absolutely killed the boys and the neighbor girl said he had seen them right before the boys died. He had a history of crime and domestic violence, and he shot his brother-in-law, allegedly in self-defense. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Even the autopsy report shows that. Is it merely a coincidence that Terry Hobbs was a former butcher and that he grew up working on his familys pig farm? RIDGE: SO HOW ABOUT DO YOU KNOW STEVE, DID HE EVER GO DOWN THERE WITH YOU?AARON: UM, ONLY ONE TIMERIDGE: ONE TIME, WERE THEY, WERE YOU ALL WATCHING THE FIVE MEN DOWN THERE THAT TIME WHEN HE WENT WITH YOU?AARON: NO, HES NEVER WE NEVER TOLD HIM ABOUT IT. HES NEVER SEEN THEM, AARON: CAUSE IT WAS ON A FRIDAY WHENEVER HE WENT DOWN THERE WITH US. DNA testing in 2007 has identified a hair fragment found on Michael Moore's bindings to be consistent with Hobbs. RIDGE: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DEAD ON? I remember when the news broke and sitting in my living room floor crying and holding my new daughter I have read, watched and researched as much as I could throughout the years. This lends credibilty to the theory that Stevie did in fact go home, and even ate some dinner. Considering that the boys were unconscious, this knot seems to have been used out of sheer habit. RIDGE: WAS IT THERE WHERE YOUR CLUB IS OR WAS IT SOME WHERE ELSE IN THOSE WOODS? In West Memphis, Hobbs worked as an ice cream delivery man and Hicks worked at a restaurant. And that alone should give us all pause. The bottom line is very simple: Terry, David, LG and Buddy all liedabout their whereabouts that night. Jamie and her sister believe that this occurred at 6:30, while their mother believes that the boys were playing in her backyard somewhere between 5:30-6:30pm. And, Ill tell you something, I would take up for my kids when Ive known that they have done something, cause aint no telling what they would do. That leaves many years unaccounted for. David Jacoby was never interviewed either. This is a big deal. According to known evidenceStevie and Michael went to the Byers right around 5:30, which in my opinion was right after they left the Hobbs home. VERY intriguing. We know that the boys clubhouse was right next to a pile of 2x4s which again supports the notion that the boys were discovered right by their clubhouse.). And that is extremely significant. For one, LGs other aunt saw him at her work at approx. "Yes I do have doubts. I went back and read all the autopsy reports and attempted to interpret them. In my opinion, this was smart of Terry. Terry told me at that time (sometime after 9:00 p.m.), that he had called the police to report that Stevie was missing. And the reason he was never questioned was because being a dude who was into dick in Arkansas in the 90s wasn't okayespecially among cops. Those who didnt know the case that well simply believed that Chris entire penis and scrotum had been cut off with a knife. David Jacoby claims that Terry showed up and the two played guitar for an hour, which also doesnt add up when you know all the details. I think its likely that Terry took the board with him as well to dispose of later or had it thrown in the bayou.