Any freshmen taking less than 24 hours of coursework must be in their dorm rooms by midnight on Monday through Wednesday and 12:30 AM on Friday through Sunday. Cedarville would be served well to move on from archaic legalistic principles of the past towards being an example of grace and freedom in Christ. Affiliated with the Reformed Presbyterian Church, the College built its first building, Old Main (now called Founders Hall), in 1895. Location & Hours 251 N Main St Cedarville, OH 45314 Get directions Thats what you have to do in order to survive there. Convocation was not that big of a dealit was actually pretty cool. Carson engages in an enlightening discourse on the disputable matters Cedarville references in the student handbook. They have to cover tattoos, remove piercings, and maintain hairstyles approved by the dean and all without any unnatural colors, of course. Look at history. If your God did these things (and science shows Sodom was the victim of a meteor strike, not magic) that makes your God evil and you should be ashamed to be promoting evil and defending the murder of gay people. I went to a Catholic University in Los Angeles and they do not have rules like that sothere. let me spell it out for you PROSELYTISM. I understand your point, and I do believe the policy could be tweaked. She told me that I was uncapable of loving because i had not experienced Gods Love. How rude of her to think she knows my life and that I had not experienced Gods love! Leave your intelligent feedback down below or consider following CollegeTimes on Facebook or Twitter to stay updated or to get in touch! First, living under such strict rules has detrimental consequences. Cedarville ought to take this Biblical message to heart and change their policies to allow responsible use of alcohol. Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. They have every right to set the standards they want to set. The last one about Liberty isnt even true. Nobody is perfect, no matter what school. A little bit of bleeding and discomfort is not the end of the world at PCC. 1 Corinthians 9:4 says, Do we not have the right to eat and drink? Paul goes on to argue that we should not do so if it would cause a stumbling block to other believers. However, no mention is made of men wearing very short shorts or tank tops that expose most of their upper body. Please, be wise! leftover elk tags wyoming; when did rumspringa originate; cedarville university crazy rules 2:1317; 1 Pet. I regret to say that it was not from the Asbury experience. Its not as strict as its portrayed here. It might be time for a look at the past before blaming a school for your wifes lack of faith Just saying. Women have to wear a dress or skirt and hose most of the time. While this article certainly peers into their doings from the perspective of an outsider, it admits that the real answers remain entirely subjective and highly nebulous. Quite honestly, speaking as a Christian myself, attending a private Christian college is not always the best choice depending on your career path. I was on full scholarship (or would have never atteneded the school),and I was aware of all these policies and followed them. There are a few on this list that are over the top in their rules, like Bob Jones and Pensacola. Most of my serious infractions involved demerits for not emptying the trash, not having two feet on the floor at morning light bell, hair touching my eyebrows and humming along to my roommate playing Dust in the Wind on his guitar. Wow. Students are allowed in each others hall lobbies at any time during the week until midnight, and students of the opposite sex are allowed in each others rooms on Fridays, again until midnight. Forgery, providing incomplete or misleading information, scanning and not attending chapel, or misuse of your student ID card are examples of dishonesty that will result in discipline. Other academic levels are not stringently held to these policies, but they must sign out if they want to return after curfew. Rules above and beyond that can get in between us and God, but condoning behavior that goes against His ways is very dangerous. The year I spent attending Pensacola Christian College was the worse year of my life. However, the rule only worked one way. More information on the personal care attendant policy and other disability accommodations is available at cedarville.edu/disabilities . The students realize that they will be under strict rule. You sure do sound like the typical judgemental fundamentalist type that writes these student handbook! Im bruised by the experience yet my wife was forever changed. Often parents make that choice, not the students. A student may be subject to involuntary withdrawal from the University or from University housing if the student engages or threatens to engage in the following: Behavior that poses a danger of causing physical harm to self or others. Only God can do that. He turned water into wine. She did meet some students who were unhappy with Asbury for various reasons, like any students at any college. Beards are completely banned without explicit permission from the school, and neither gender may color their hair or wear any form-fitting apparel. I wouldnt go to any of these colleges, but youre giving them more crap than you should. Except he isnt the one setting it; its man claiming to speak for him. However, writing an article does not constitute its topic being a massive social issue. I went to Asbury and had no issues. 1 Corinthians 8:8 argues, Food will not commend us to God. To try to fix me, I was taken to a church, beat, water thrown on me, dragged to a stage and forced to confess things Id never done. HA!!! Because the nude human body is just as detrimental to society as a sawed-off shotgun. Some are grounds for immediate expulsion, while others build up over time before a student can be dismissed. Remember no one is forcing anyone to go to this college those who attend are already in agreement with the administration the writer sound like the school is repressive it isnt if you choose to live a prurient life also the remark about legal pornography shows the the commentator has no idea of what is going on its not mans law they are concerned with, its, you know, His law. An act isnt good because God does it a being can only be God if it only does good acts. Located in Cedarville, Ohio, Cedarville University is a mid-size four year private college offering both undergrad and graduate programs. They also require the students to dress up for all morning classes, no matter what the class was too. Alcohol is held up as equally detrimental as illegal substances regardless of whether or not a student partakes responsibly and remains at or above the drinking age and the University does not discriminate on whether or not consumption or possession takes place on- or off-campus, either. Emergency personnel respond to a shooting at Michigan State University in East Lansing, Michigan, U.S., February 13, 2023. Arrests, convictions, and firearms understandably lead to suspension or termination, but so can purchasing and consuming alcohol (even when of age), attending a bar or a club, involvement with a cult, Satanism, or witchcraft, or engaging in sexual activity. She ate me out the first week I was there and gifted me with my first strap on fucking a few weeks latter. Treating free-willed adults as if petulant children incapable of forging their own individual perceptions, decisions, and behaviors.. Do you think Id have argued about a college? Restrictions only cause problems for those who dont agree with the lifestyle. Christians not overtaken by an archaic dislike of alcohol from the 1920s can read this passage and apply it to Cedarville in this way: Students should not drink with students who are not legally allowed to do so and students should not drink too much alcohol, thereby maintaining self-control over their bodies. 20:1; Prov. You are so used to being controlled that its normal or just easier to do what your are told. This is EXTREMELY uninformed. God tried to strike me with lightning for being there but he missed.lol jk The rigor is tough and the women are drop dead gorgeousbut bottom line, they are human and live life very similar to everyone else, they just do it in a bit of a different way. Ten. The rule is to err on the side of caution in wisdom. In addition, they must refrain from participating in any pro-gay demonstrations or distribute literature involving equal marital and legal rights for their community. I read the comments first, and assumed that they were being prudes. Behavior that would cause property damage or directly impedes or disrupts the lawful activity of others. Being used to overbearing, micro-managing or fear-based parenting, it is difficult for many kids to realize at that young age that they are actually capable of making their own decisions! Woah this blog is great i really like reading your posts. I dont even go to church anywhere around campus. There wasnt anything there that drove me crazy. All of these policies supposedly honor the wishes of Jesus Christ and facilitate participation in the encouraged weekend activities of door-to-door and child evangelism, working in churches, and volunteering at nursing homes. Obviously, dishonest or disruptive remains heavily discouraged as it does even in public schools. Here are two rules that are across the board on campus (that your RA will be giving you more detail about once you arrive on campus) . I respect your opinion and where its coming from. But people can dance randomly if they want at any time of course as long as youre not grinding your boyfriend or getting down low, youre good. God bless. Outright banning everything that can be dangerous to someones health and character leaves much less room for students to learn moderation. In the introduction of this article, many questions were raised, and no answers for any of them were argued for in the main body of the text. Ive been asked so many times why I kept returning to such an oppressive environment. You make it out to seem way worse than it is. I often hang out in large groups without a chaperon at like 2am. go to freethoughtpedia and look up PCC and read the review of a former student. Instagram. If you tell your kids what smoking does to their lungs, they wont even *want* to smoke. I do believe Cedarville gets a lot of things right, especially in the area of academics. This Florida institution takes its honor court very, very seriously going so far as to issue demerits for a number of completely legal offenses. If a student applies and is admitted to one of the educational institutions it is safe to assume that theyve read and have agreed to the guidelines. God created the creativity within human beings. What about people like me with throat issues? Were MADE in Gods image, and so the things we feel and do were felt by God first! People who attend strict colleges probably do so because they prefer a stricter environment. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do. Just like if we do a 270 double front flip on our jet ski, we are no better or worse off. 3:3; Titus 1:7; 1 Pet. Drinking alcohol is certainly disputed between Christians with different opinions on it, but it is not a disputed doctrine. Will students at uber-Chritstian universities have this? Im an army vet who went into humanitarian work when I left the army, honorably. And finally Amos prophecy describes the restoration of Gods people as involving drinking wine. AND, IF I had not experienced Gods love, Why doesnt she try to show me instead of disipline me when I did nothing wrong!!!!!! If the truth is found in the Bible, abide in it, and depart not from it. It was merely noted that many outside the affiliated fundamentalist organizations may look over their rules and find their jaws dropping. Some of the dating offenses include displays of affection beyond hand-holding both on- and off-campus, seeing one another in swimming or sunbathing attire, not exiting a car at the same time immediately upon turning off the engine, being caught alone together while at school, and going on single dates while a freshman. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The Sobering truth of Cedarvilles Archaic Prohibition Rules. I would strongly caution you to know he whom you so boldly challenge, and if you charge a holy God with unrighteousness, take note that it shall be accounted of in the day of your calamity. You should consider Faulkner Univsersity for one of these top 10. We call our student handbook The Cedarville Experience because it includes many of the guidelines and principles that will shape your time at Cedarville. Use of alcohol was simply pushed underground out of regulatory bounds and resulted in the creation of a black market. its not mans law they are concerned with, its, you know, His law.. but those who curtail their rights are guilty of stupidities. This was in Roger Rosenblatt in his essay We are Free to Be You, Me, Stupid and Dead. Unfortunately, 1 Corinthians 8 is the famous and ever-taken-out-of-context passage used by Christians to justify substituting their convictions for Biblical truths. My marriage has lasted almost 11 years so far, I have no illegitimate children and I have never been an embarrassment to my husband. That's right, an MBA degree. As a Christian university community, Cedarville is concerned about the potential risk to a persons individual well- being and the reality that alcohol use has a significant negative impact on University culture. Id be more concerned about how easily youre manipulated into defending mass murder and less about cheering on places that prohibit dancing or chewing gum. Seeing (or participating in) vigorous debates where practically nothing is held as a common assumption between the opposing debaters is a great way to develop someones intellectual capabilities, especially critical thinking skills. If you tell them honestly what excessive use of alcohol does to people, they wont *want* to get wasted. Here are just four, from least to most problematic: NOTE: This is not a comprehensive argument for changing the alcohol policy at Cedarville and more articles will likely be posted in relation to this subject to review Biblical principles in depth. Regardless of popular opinion, political correctness, or the ideas of major theologians, truth is always truth. So if the rules dont work for you, dont go there. While BYU does accept students who do not belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, they are still required to participate in the community as if they were. Im not a Christian and yet I do not have pictures pasted on the internet of myself drunk and naked I dont even use Facebook or alcohol. If you want information about these schools, do your homework by going straight to the source. Even if this situation only befalls a small proportion of the students who attend, it is bad enough that it is a significant threat. They are private institutions and can set their own policies. It is not unreasonable for them to expect the students attending a Christian college to live up to the standards lai out for them. Graduating 74% of students, Cedarville alumni go on to earn a starting salary of $35,200. Feb 25 (Sat) 5:00 PM. Honestly, this is lazy journalism. If you want to have a Christian school, make it conform to Biblical principles as much as possible. After dusk, mixed groups are not allowed to fraternize without chaperones because having a group of friends including males and females alike is not normal psychosocial behavior it is improper and apparently leads to premarital sex and dancing and other alleged affronts to Jesus. When asked why not, her response is always that she lost a lot of her motivation and dedication for faith development because of the Asbury rules you were not allowed to grow up into responsible adulthood. But honestly, the teachers and student body are just as lenient about the rule as they are in K-12 schools. Students are not permitted to attend parties where alcohol is being used in a manner that violates University standards. LU is now one of the largest christian colleges in teh US, if not the largest. As part of this I had to see the Dean of Men and he told me of a couple who rubbed against each other until bad things happened apparently he was expecting me to admit the same (4) One time in a private setting in a social area for couples to spend time she sat on my lap we were told by a person representing the college this was inappropriate behavior; (5) chapel attendance was required and attendance taken and I believe 2 misses meant disciplinary action (6) guys and girls were not allowed to swim together although I believe this has changed (7) Very little help was provided if you needed help in academics, although one of the college missions is to provide help to those in KY who had inferior high school experiences (6) It was extremely rule oriented it was about following the rules and not about development and transformation as a responsible ethical who loved God and Christ. Theres a long thread on the forums at home-school.com about Pensacola Christian College by a former student who thinks its a cult, and its not accredited. ALCOHOL AND ILLEGAL AND HARMFUL SUBSTANCES The Bible contains many warnings on the use of alcohol and teaches the need for caution. The men and women have their own elevators, must not be together in isolated areas, cannot swim together, even at the beach. She worked a part time job, attended church, volunteered at a local organization, was on a school team and carried a course load of 15 to 19 hours while maintaining a 3.8 GPA. Everyone should look at the evidence presented and formulate their own personal opinion of the matter. No TEA???? No they really dont. Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. Ballroom dancing? Not sure why you find prohibition of Occult practices to be a bad thing for those attending a Christian university. Like that other poster, we werent able to read the handbook until the day we arrived. The veritably Orwellian Florida Christian College combs through its students media collections, banning any books, movies, music, magazines, or video games it deems detrimental to Christianity. They help stem the tide of STDs, date rape, the dangers of substance abuse, etc., Cedarville University. You arent allowed to have any music by a contemporary artist or anything with even the slightest beat. In fact, they DID say, students should not drink too much alcohol, thereby maintaining self-control over their bodies. The point of this article was not to condone drunkenness, but to challenge Cedarvilles policy against responsible alcohol consumption for adults. But once again, if you believe in supporting them or neutral, they wont do anything to you or criticize you. They just dont want you showing /Friday the 13th/ or anything, due to the content. Required fields are marked *. Perhaps they are harmful. Sure it hurt like hell but if it helps me be a better wife someday isnt that worth it ? They love to give demerits there and everyone is encouraged to be a snitch. God forbid someone busts into a Riverdance in the middle of the student union. Just as with eating food offered to idols, as Paul discusses, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with alcohol consumption. -Pornography duh. I had said I love you. and we hung up the phone. Welcome to a place where Gods very attributes are slandered and blasphemed. They understandably discourage illegal and discourteous behaviors such as excessive drunkenness, but generally harmless actions like possessing legal pornography, moderate drinking, disciplined gambling, dancing, sensuality, premarital sex, and homosexuality all remain condemned and held up as just as harmful to young, educated minds. D.A. The reality is this: laws cannot change hearts and minds. All of which are traditional dances and (in my opinion) in no way put the dancers morality and purity at risk. To be sure, the school was known more for its strict rules back in the 1980s than for its educational prowess, and those rules were sexist (women had to wear skirts) and ridiculous (movie theatres were banned but VCRs weren't). I will be praying for you and I pray that God works in your life and makes you realize that saying nasty words about something is not going to take away the scars of what someone did to you, or the anger that results from it. Minor infractions include borrowing and not attending chapel and group devotions on a regular basis. There are as many answers as there are people to consider the questions, because the world exists in shades of grey. Some may seem that way to those who dont adhere to a particular faith. L, 8-10. You understand, a lot of people are hunting round for this information, you could help them greatly. Students re-paint 'The Rock' at Michigan State University, Feb. 15, 2023. There are many things that are legal that are morally wrong, and Allowing dancing at any school-related function on or off campus is strictly prohibited, though students are allowed to bust a few chaste, pre-approved moves at weddings, military balls, graduation exercises, church, and family occasions provided they refrain from attending clubs, bars, or parties that allegedly lead to temptation no matter what. put a sock in it. But some schools, most especially those affiliated with the evangelical Christian movement in the United States, raise a number of extremely difficult questions with their adherence to a highly restrictive code of values. But you cant get upset and blame teh school if you enroll and dont check out the requirements first..BYU is a great school.not a fan of mormonism, but the students that are there are great kids for the most part. Your email address will not be published. This article oversimplifies the issue, as well as interprets the motives behind the rule, both of which are misleading. Any and all work must not interfere with weekday prayer sessions, either. Openly homosexual students are allowed to attend classes, but they must commit themselves to the same standards of staunch chastity as their heterosexual peers. Like, in this example, students deciding its very unlikely that Oral Roberts raised the dead during his ministry, which would make their college named after a liar. Some rules are ridiculous. Finally she taught me how to take a hard anal fucking so I would be ready for a fundie husband some day. As Paul said, Be not drunk with wine, but we filled with the holy spirit. As for the dress code, it sounds old fashioned and sexist. Jesus drank wine. I transferred to and a public univ and found it to be a great fit for me, realizing that everything along my journey (both good and bad) helped to make me stronger and teach me about life sono regrets. Or are they treating free-willed adults as if petulant children incapable of forging their own individual perceptions, decisions, and behaviors without being fed someone elses interpretations of Christian dogma? Since, as was noted in the introduction, it usually remains the students choice to partake of such environments, I dont think that we can disapprove of these schools on ethical or legal grounds. I think that the questions that we really need to ask are (a) whether students are better off if they attend these schools, and (b) whether we ought to encourage students to attend these schools. Listed below are several principles that support and guide our approach to alcohol and are informed by the following Scripture texts: Prov. Clothing should not be excessively short or revealing. Carson, writing for what is arguably Cedarvilles favorite theology blog The Gospel Coalition, writes, one should not confuse the logic of 1 Corinthians 8 with the stance that finds a strong legalist saying to a believer who thinks that eating meat offered to idols is acceptable, You may think that such action is legitimate, but every time you do it you are offending meand since you are not permitted to offend me, therefore you must not engage in that activity.. Academically, it was quite decent, and some professors were very open-minded. All appeals for Involuntary AdministrativeWithdrawal should be addressed to the Vice President for Student Life and Christian Ministries within 48 hours of the decision. Any student requiring a personal care attendant because of a physical disability is responsible for making such arrangements. D.A. you know, just as there are Christians who behave badly, there are secular women who have higher standards. This is taken from the oru web site . Commuter students cannot cohabitate with significant others or any peers of the opposite sex, either, and anyone hoping to get married before the age of 21 is highly encouraged to seek counseling and receive parental permission. There are so many problems with this statement. And Another note. Above all, we pray God would be honored by our deliberations and actions. The author of this article did not support, in any way, shape or form, getting drunk. Facebook. Other than in the residence halls, shirts should be worn everywhere on campus, including the Callan Athletic Center. If you dont like it find somewhere else to go to college. The bible is the guideline to these rules. You choose to goto these places and you definately visit them and see if it fits what you want a few years of your life to be a part of. Thankfully, Christian colleges provide a better environment than secular campuses.
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