My wife and I have composite moon in the 12 house (aquarius). I have 3 planets in my natal chart in 12th house (mercury,sun,mars) and we have 2 planets,which are identical in my natal(mercury and sun), in the composite chart in 12th house with someone who i talked for 6 months but we never dated.We also have our moon in pisces in 6th house. I just met someone who has their moon in 12th house like myself and im wondering if i need to investigate this more closely. Moon and Mars both Trine Uranus. Similarly, the 4th house is used for Gemini, and information is extracted by reading it in the Natal charts. Comparing composites to the biwheel between two charts is impossible, like comparing apples and oranges. Im trying to figure it out. They think no one cares whether they are present or absent. And this is where we must reach out beyond our small lives to touch the greater life that is possible. Overall, this is considered a favorable Lilith placement, as it is . When transit Jupiter is in the composite 12th house, you may have more opportunities to come together behind the scenes, behind closed doors, when no one is watching, and in a professional relationship, this can be how you make lots of progress together. Lilith in the 12th House. One valuable lesson I learned is to refrain being attached to an outcome with him. . It's so "behind scenes" that it freaks me out. The Uranus/Mercury conjunction in the composite can make the relationship more mental than physical. (Or so we believe, those of us who deal in astrology.) This man can be my everything and this feeling will not change. We had an instant connection, and I ended up in his apartment the first night we met. The lack of posturing and display of ego gives others the chance to have a "day in the sun," endearing the 12th house sun to the person they gave the chance to shine. and then mars, Jupiter and neptune in the 2nd. Aquarius rising at 29 degrees. Through the sixth house, you must learn to function in the world efficiently and take up the calling to serve Humanity. A very painful and challenging connection. Transit Neptune in the Composite 12th House. Sorry Shannon, Dawn passed away a couple of years ago. This position can show one person makes all of the sacrifices and the other person takes everything . Overall the chart has a heavy emphasis on the 10-12 houses, and no planets at all in the 5-9 houses, with the exception of Chiron in the 8th house (which sextiles the MC and trines the Moon/Mars as well). Venus (love) and Mars (sex) in the 7th House are a strong testimony as well. Now I just have to sit and wait around where it is got to leave us! How that manifests depends on other aspects. He just wanted to keep it physical until one of us gets married with someone else. So I had to find an answer without destroying so many other lives or breaking up relationships. I was the Sun/Ascendant person, while he was the Lilith person. If the Composite Sun is in the 1 st House, there will be a focus on this relationship. however, we are very well aspected with neptune in trine and sextile to our nodes, as our sun, but our vertex is opposed and conjucted. He told me that had never happened to him before (referring to how we couldnt control ourselves). The story of your inability to connect probably has more to do with your individual chart comparisons than the composite chart. The 12th house is the house of the hidden, the subconscious, spirituality, karma, and as the last house, it governs endings. Im sorry to hear your story. Whatever I told you would not have a context. He says what on thinking. His venus also opposed my Lilith in XII., his Pluto also trine my lilith in XII. Yes its probably the case, but as it is unconscious, how could I manage it , or prevent myself from feeling this ? It is ruled by Pluto and Mars, rulers of Scorpio. Do you think perhaps its just the heavily dominated 12th house of our composite chart thats responsible for my belief that we may be twin flames? They rip the rug from under you every other day. I think the fact that were both artists gave this aspect an outlet. His natal Venus in cancer is in my 12house. When transit Mercury is in the composite 12th house, you may refrain from expressing thoughts and opinions with one another until youre alone, just the two of you, and no one else around. And I learned a lot too. On the one hand We are meant to be on the other, But if we are, why is it so hard?, When a couple has planets, or an important planet, in the 12th, it can go a couple of ways. There are lots of couples with heavy 12th house influence who are out in the open. Trust me when I say that I will happily take a man i am less connected to, to allow myself the support I need to thrive in this life. The 12th house is the culmination of all that has come before itits our last chance, our last ride, and planets there can often go to extremes without knowing why (they can blame it on the limitless nature of Pisces, which respects no boundaries). But from the first moment I felt and I know he did as well this very big attraction to him. Dear Dawn, thank you for this amazing article. That you both have the Moon in the 12th makes you both sensitive to your surroundings and highly intuitive. 1. When Saturn is conjunct the North Node it can be particularly ruthless in pursuing its goals. Couples where the 12th is strong can often experiencewell, lets say itNeptunian weirdness. You're hypersensitive to energy and emotions in your environment, including the collective, if Chiron is in the 12th House. Will we stay together after we have learned our lesson together? Hi!! Love for loves sake wont fly with the 12th house. Our composite mars is in cancer in the 12 house. They might be very sneaky and test people a lot. But, our composite chart is weird. In my experience, if you have a good synastry but a difficult composite, the couple get along with one another but have problems establishing the relationship in the outside world. In synastry, his Pluto is in my 12th conjunct my ascendent tightly, and I have nothing in his 12th. You may keep your feelings for each other to yourselves, not feeling safe expressing them for whatever reason. Talking about Fate! Having someone else's planets in these houses (especially the 5 th, 7 th, and 8 th houses), conjunct the Vertex or not, indicate a high level of compatibility and intimacy. Sadly, our Moon is square to Uranus and I suspect this might be one influence behind her decision to break off all contact with me. His Pluto on your Ascendant is an intense experience, but it sounds as though Neptune is the culprit as far as youre concerned. When transit Uranus is in the composite 12th house, you may make changes together but quietly behind the scenes, with no one watching. RUN ? They help us understand that our capacity to love is its own reward. Our physical connection was addicting. I know he is devoted to his son more maybe than to his wife but he cares about him as well because he is a very nice man. Is this why I am feeling this more? Oh the powers of the 12th house. I have gone through a long, long cycle of heartaches and have been able to slowly, heart-wrenchingly get over each and every one, except this guy. i am deeply hurt but I am not angry with him. Hi! All that subconscious provoking of each other is very much a full time job and its preventing me from being successful in life and meeting a man that can offer the support i need to really fly. I and my boyfriend have conjunction of mars-venus in twelfth house (taurus) closely conjuncting composite gemini ascendant. We have a meaningful journey to take together, but we must ultimately be alone. It will revolve around sorrow, secrets, fantasies, hidden desires, emotions, and everything that belongs to our little secrets without physical forms. I havent spoken to him in a couple of years and my heart is still broken. I mean, for the 2 people IN the relationship it will be a very impactful connection, but even other people will take notice of this pairing. He is a pisces rising with neptune conjunct his midheaven. Interesting description: it seems like weve followed ourselves around the country for each of our lives and not ever taking the time to learn about each other. We also have Sun conjunct Saturn, Saturn trine Moon double whammy, Sun conjunct North Node double whammy, his venus conjunct my ascendant, My Mercury conjunct his ascendant, our moons conjunct in aries, Sun opposite Sun, Mercury opposite Mercury, and Venus opposite Venus, all within 3 degrees. It has been a very long journey! You are great!!!!!!!!!!! thank you for post! I read our full synastry report, using dual cosmodynes, and the outcome was very positive and harmonic, scoring pretty much above the average! What would you say about a composite Scorpio Juno in the 12th house, conjunct to the asteroid Valentine and squaring the north and south node? Just endings in general. (I have my moon in Scorpio in the 12th house along with Saturn and Pluto). Together we share a Mars 12th. It was a complicated, intense, spicy hot love affair that changed both of our lives. What is your thought on this. My 12 is in Leo, along with my Sun, Mercury, Mars and Pluto. When the transit Moon is in the composite 12th house, you may want some alone time together, wanting to share feelings but only when alone and no one else is around. Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. The feelings I have for him, I feel, are something I just have to live with for the rest of my life. The midpoint chart reveals the relationship on another level entirely. i give it much meaning because i really feel a psychic connection and a karmic fate, but again that could be just me since i have a heavy neptune but nothing in my natal 12th. She has great remorse about it and is seeking help to try and put an end to it. Thank you for your reply Dawn . The working dynamic of the partnership is in the biwheel (how do you make me feel?) (like your name too. Any insights you may have would be greatly appreciated! No one could share that kind of information with a person that he/she newly know. When your North Node is in the 12th house of your partner's natal chart, you will help the 12th house native become more spiritual and grow as a person. Everyone longs for melding and merging in relationship, but the truth is that separateness makes us interesting to one another. I apologize for the mistakes, Im French and sometimes it is difficult to express in English . It contains everything and nothing . Thank You so much for Your answer! venus all in the 12th house. intresting to know why its so bad. This can happen in composites of unrequited love, where one person loves another who doesnt know he or she exists. .why is neptune conjunct sun so bad in composite? We talk with each other and I know he loved me and still does like me , we talk in the church when we can but none of us really telling the real story (which is so 12 house thing). Im also sorry to say that trines arent all theyre cracked up to besometimes they just pour energy into whatever else theyre aspecting, in this case, the major square. cheers:). The empty space in Aries, would that be the outlet or where to focus all that energy? Black Moon Lilith in 5th or 11th house in composite chart: This . Indeed, I felt the fear trampling along the edge with fear of insecurity. Hey Dawn! But venus, mars, moon and vertex in the first house in pisces. Any insight you can offer would be greatly appreciated. We romanticize all of this (and well, a little romance never hurt anyone) but the truth is that this familiarity is there to hurry up the bonding process so that the lessons and the challenges can be quickly assimilated. These are just a few of the synastry aspects. I have learned to surrender much but our relationship isnt surviving, we cant let go altogether and cant seem to be together. The 12th house is always complex and is different in how it manifests depending on the contacts involved. WhiteLotus. In Our composite chart Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Chiron in the 12 house. Tendency to become a victim; cult of mystery; exploration of the suffering of others. It isnt bad, its difficult. I live a bliss and despair relation for about 2 years but definite we are totally different persons than before met each other (we are old enough!). I am a Sag with moon (12th house) and rising both in scorpio. We need strong, healthy egos to accomplish what weve come to do in this life, but we need to act according to what is wanted of us, not against it. I have a 12th house Capricorn stellium and my husband and I also have a composite 12th house Capricorn stellium. Our lives are silly and sublime at once. Thank you for this article. Beautiful article!! Its part of me. We have Sun,mercury,venus and jupiter in 12th house virgo. I met her near the end of my Saturn return (Cancer in the 4th house) and I am aware of deep wounds in me around my need for nurturing and I wonder if my neediness in this area may have something to do with it all. Judy, Im sorry about your relationship with your daughter. What should i do? Find a way to bring the god down to the day to day world, so that it, too, is considered sacred. And 1 more thing HIS VENUS opposes my vertex and my sun, venus and mercury on his ASC conjucts his Venus! A share a composite chart with a stellium of planets (Sun, Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune) in the 12th house with cusp on Scorpio. I still remember very clearly how I felt 10 years ago when I first met my former boyfriend. I have been so confused and you describe it so accurately. The composite chart only reveals so muchcomparing natal charts tells us about the day to day of the people involved, their reactions to one another, their attractions, etc. Again, sadly, this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. By the way loved your above article and thank you for any info you provide : ) x, Thanks for writing this article. Besides synastry, the twelfth house in a composite chart can also be telling when it comes to karmic relationships. Here we are, older, everything so different now, lessons learned, and I am seeing that I cant undo the past. Is there something to be read from this cluster of planets in 12th house? The Inner Wheel Recommended Astrology Reading Lists, Crucible and the Wheel: The Transiting Nodes Series. Im afraid I cant get into it in this space (in the synastry course, we spend several lessons comparing the midpoint and Davison charts). Eventually, we learn that life is not as random as we thought, but full of purpose and meaning. In our synastry chart, we also have exact Chiron/Venus opposition. There is a lot of love between us, much alignment in our dreams and life goals and a feeling of being soul mates and yet a strange disconnect emotionally that has us often feeling like we are on completely different wavelengths. 13 . I would need a full synastry to really answer your question. Thanks! Hi ameNow were talking about the differences between the Davison and the midpoint charts, and thats really too complicated a topic to go into here. He didnt want to commit/marry. I love him more than Ive ever loved any man I knew immediately. I just am hesitating. You need to work on bringing body and mind together, as a couple. Oh wow, Im glad to be reading this after the fact. Those with this placement can benefit significantly from learning how to . We are ignoring what the Source is asking us to do. I feel so helpless! My question is this: Does our Sun/Mercury conjunction in the 12th composite necessarily have to mean we are destined to learn a particular lesson and then part? We met one day and it was ON, mutual, and understood without saying word. I am a pisces sun, mercury, mars. should i run away from this relationship? Its what happens when a sensitive person loves another human being. I dont know why im writing you this because uncounsciously know this relationship was all about love and let go. Haunting 12th house issues are not always supportive. Its the last chance to get it right, and there will be a struggle to use this planets positive expression easily. hello, nice article Dawn. The south node lies there on the natal composite. My takeaway is that the two people involved would think the relationship was hidden (and something for just them) but its not really because of the nature of the Asc Conjunctions. Lots of greetings from Serbia. Your relationship usually starts out as a friendship or as "good friends". Like individuals with 12th house planets, couples with a lot of twelfth house may feel that there is something fated about their lives together. The Autumn Schedule is Here! . I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd.
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