If you read the fine print on his PG page you would see that his best pop time was from 2013, his best 60 time was from 2015, best FB was from 2016.but when you pull up his page you see he had MANY great numbers, it was impressive, but wow that must have been expensive! However, I think it helps his athletic abilities. The smaller kids have been relegated to MIF, their compact size still gives them an advantage there, because they just don't have the arm strength to throw it meaningfully the 200+ feet it takes to get the ball in from the outfield. One of the difficulties is to fond timing references grids. Kids with weak cores and lower body strength won't do it well and kids that are not athletic will have a hard time coordinating the movement. Check out the video below for tips from former D1 baseball player and NJCAA coach Nelson Gord. I lettered in 4 sports in high school and played small D1 football and track(sprinting). Rep Power: 3889. a 3.41 in the 20 is horrible, especially for someone of your body type, based on your stats. CF with a big bat.certainly didn't hurt himself in front of the scouts with that performance. I was curious as to what would be normal and what would be considered fast. Thanks for your attention! Question: the average 50 yard dash sprint times for 12-13 year olds is 5.44 seconds worth standard deviation of 0.34 seconds. If sprinting is not timed, its not sprinting. This is a good benchmark to compare to when you're training, but it may not accurately reflect your speed. Coaches are watching, before the game, between game action and after the game to see how a prospect carries themselves. I think the problem with focusing is especially at the small school level you cant afford to have 3-5 kids specialize bc the other teams suffer. The average punt covers about 40 yards, which is why it became an important distance for football sprints. Therefore, sprinting at max speed is the best way to train. Not Replied You'd better be careful of kids "watching the stop watch," trying to overrun and blowing out their knee. Recruiting guidelines are just that: guidelines. mike vernon royal household; are there snakes in gran canaria; shooting in laurel, md yesterday. The current issue with sport is that these kids just compete year round. 800 meter dash: 2:35 Great post! 40 (2) = Second 40-yard dash time per NFL Network coverage 40 (O) = Official 40-yard dash time from NFL Network coverage and NFL.com 10 (1) = First 10-yard split time per NFL Network coverage This is from a coach who has timed 100's over 20 years. I specifically tell him that if its not fun, he shouldnt be doing it. Why? We have been timing 27 for years so my data is now junk for comparison sake. Soccer is an endurance sport. I do tend to think that acceleration is useful for training purposes maybe not for max speed but for power development outside weight gym it does correlates nicely. Replies and comments they make will be collapsed/hidden by default. I agree for certain positions, not for others. LMAO apparently they didnt catch that Chris Johnson and RG3 are running 4.2s NOW. Right now he is probably 4'11 and 80lbs! Wicket drills (running over mini-hurdles) is a staple of sprint training. My 7-year-old daughter is very good at sprinting 100 meters. I would expect there to be some improvement gains as one gets older (similar to strength or velocity) but how much is considered typical? If you see the sprint coach meticulously recording times and giving athletes instant feedback, you have the right place. Get focused on skill development. 7.83 was as a 14yr 8month (my mistake in the prior post). I dont have enough training awareness to recognize things he could do, other than just saying go faster. 3.80 meter long jump If we were to use the information people send us it would be a mess. 99% of the recruitment stories I have heard were from the kids summer team/showcases, so where the kid plays HS baseball is not as important as it once was.in my opinion and experience. 100M 11.71 HH Chris Johnson who ran a 4.24 seems to be an anomaly as he is the only . Club experience: 34 years of high-level travel baseball, Awards and accolades: multiple-time All-Conference, All-Area, All-State honors, Club experience: 23 years of high-level travel baseball, Awards and accolades: multiple time All-Conference, All-Area, potential All-State honors, Club experience: 23 years playing travel baseball, Awards and accolades: multiple time All-Conference, All-Area honors, Pitch velocity: 84 MPH consistently; up to 95+ MPH, Walk less than 1 batter per 2 innings pitched, Control of one off-speed pitch and 1 additional pitch thrown to spots consistently, Walk around 1 batter per 2 innings pitcher, Control of at least one off-speed pitch and developing another, Coaches will take a closer look at catch and throw mechanics as well as the arm strength shown while throwing to 2nd and 3rd base, While defense comes first for a catcher, Division 1 coaches will also look for a player who demonstrates outstanding leadership skills and has the ability to work with the entire pitching staff, Division 1 catchers swing the bat well and usually can hit for power or average at a high level, Slugging: .600 (minimum 2 at bats per game), Pop Time: 1.95 and below consistently (verified by a neutral source), Slugging: .550 (minimum 2 at bats per game), Pop Time: 2.0 and below consistently (verified by a neutral source), HR: 510 as a junior and senior in high school, Slugging: .750 (minimum 2 at bats per game), Needs to demonstrate the ability or potential to hit for power, A solid 1B recruit in this tier should have a few HRs and a lot of RBIs as a junior and senior in high school, HR: 510 as a junior and senior in high school, Infield Velocity: At least 80 MPH with the ability to improve through development, HR: At least 2 HR as a high school junior and senior, 60-yard dash: 6.56.8. So, from a statistics standpoint (and PGStaff could confirm), I would assume that as the further the graduation date (i.e., younger player), the smaller you sample size in the numbers from PG. Why is there a jump in performance in the "older" age groups? Any 17u teams in Illinois I can still register and play for this summer? Ive witnessed the evolution of sports in America. This is an average of 4:34 per mile for 26.2 miles. Of course anything faster is considered above average. My 2018 went to a PG event the summer after his Freshman year and had his 60 time recorded at 7.2. I doubt 0.4 improvement is the norm, but I've always thought a good sprint coach and an "untrained" athletecould drop at least 2 tenths. They (we) time 40yds wrong, but not more than 0.3 unless its intentional or timed by an observer. Not according to the above where Tony charted out Coach Latakos sons progress. I have been lucky to coach the boys in football and lacrosse for 11 years. It factors weight into a player's 40-yard dash time assigning a premium to fast times run by bigger, often spaner, running backs. If that is the case I would still encourage you to stick with it. I coach in a soccer academy for kids born in 2012 so they are either 6 or 7 years old right now. We have heard hundreds of stories where someone's son touched 94 last week can you update his profile? I informally timed my 12u CF (2022)with an 8.0. Learn More{{/message}}. I think it is very interesting to look at some of the top HS draft pick's PG profiles & pages when they have a deep history. I didnt believe her so I timed him best of three was 5.68! It has been speculated that in his prime, Usain Bolt might have been able to run a sub-4.0 40. Ive seen 58 11 year olds who are studs but never get significantly better. Baseball also commonly uses the 60 yard dash in testing. to accuse someone of lying? Based on the graphs below, we expect T.J.s speed numbers to improve. Most kids learn to play their sport but never learn to sprint. cool running race results. Coaches are looking for the best fits for their team. Compensations become habits. What is the best way for high school catchers to market themselves to D1 college coaches? Every sprint must be less than five seconds in length. Tony Holler is a member of Illinois Track & Field Hall of Fame and Co-director of Track Football Consortium along with Chris Korfist. On average, their front 20 yards clocked in at 2.85, while their back 20 came in at 2.06. I know the rate of decreasing times cant continue, but its interesting to see how they track. This is a link to my Youth Development page (I need to update it as I have a lot more links and info to add just need to find the time). If in fact he trained for a single drill, then he had someone really stupid giving him advice (except for maybe the last showcase when he brought the fastball). The fastest 60-yard dash was run by both Herb Washington and Mel Pender, who ran it in 5.8 seconds in 1972 and 1973, respectively. . Most kids (other than the absolute stud outliers) need showcases/travel team exposure, even if they're starters in strong programs. Outfielders: Should cover ground, field anything hit to their position and make strong accurate throws.-Height: 5'10''-Weight: 175 lbs.-60 Yard Dash: 6.8 or below-Home to 1st: Right-Handed Hitter: 4.2 or faster, Left-Handed Hitter: 4.1 or faster I was worried that we were overdoing the sports activities, but his doctor recommended that this is normal in 5 year old kids and that he should continue his sports activities. Im assuming the 40 times posted here for the 9 year old kid were recorded by hand. Shuttle runs are better. He is at a local mid D1, no idea how it's going since he just got there in August. I can tell what kids know how to block/hit/tackle by watching this drill. He had knee surgery the first week of June and was only cleared to run 100% the end of last week. My advice to athletic-minded parents: Teach your kid to sprint. She is running a 6.4 second 40 meter consistently. Glad I wasted my time reading this and some of the other data. Current Visitors: 158 (0 members, 158 guests). I have an 8 year old son now and I am trying to not repeat those mistakes with him, but he seems to have a more is better natural mentality. All I hear from kids is they want to go D1 D1 D1, there is nothing wrong with D2, D3 or NAIA if you are playing for the right reasons aka love of the game, Ive seen too many kids who want to say they got a scholarship and love the idea they got a scholarship and quit because theyre burnt out. | At the high school level, the 40-Yard Dash is usually timed by hand, meaning a person with a stopwatch clocks your 40. My other point is, I agree with the above points about sensible training schedules and intensity for youth. He ran a 6.82 at a showcase (laser timed) on 4 June, so he is attending another one next week in the hopes of getting down to 6.7would be nice to hit that time since he just turned 17. Accept small gains. I've seen teams full of the tiny fast kids and if a ball is hit to the fence it can sometimes take 3 kids to get the ball to home platethat's just not going to cut it when there are 14u kids that are 6'0 and 160#'s that can strong arm it all the way to the plate. But the kids that are there get better faster. She is a third baseman. Jan 5, 2016. I spent fathers Day weekend with 30,000 other people at my 16 year old sons lacrosse tournament. Similarly, the average 20-yard split was 2.61 seconds at the combine and 2.62 seconds at their pro days. What is the average 50 yard dash time for a 12 year old? We just can't report what we don't see. Mine was 3x week. I played football, basketball, baseball, and ran track. Clayton was taught to sprint by his dad, one of the best track coaches in the state of Illinois. Forum contains unread posts, Topic Icons: Records must be kept. He always ran extremely well but his form now is greatly improved, I feel. 16 year old Boy/Girl twins, 14 years old Girl, and 9 year old Son. I feed the flame and it becomes fire, I feed the fire and it becomes a roaring blaze" - Cus D'Amato, 1908-1985. 4 years 30-32 seconds The unfortunate thing is that we are going to have to make decisions about high school soon as his small private school that he loveshas a very poor program. This would certainly skew the numbers (and percentage gain) over time. They were 10 last year. It also gives the player their home to first time. 7.Throwing Velocity measured by the use of a radar gun The athlete makes a maximum of five overhand throws with a regulation softball, on flat ground. SF. I think the later bloomers have bigger jumps at the HS ages. Sorry about the link. Coaches Eye works so well with air play to the big screen tv. The biggest hang up recruits or parents have is that while a recruit might be really good at the high school level, if they arent playing against college level competition, it isnt much help to a coach. 5 years and 2 months 22-28 seconds. Good sprint coaches are data-driven. Keep in mind in high school your 9th grader could very easily be pitted against a 17 year old senior. Good luck to you guys next week, hope he hit's it. Their are only so many places you can hide the lumbering behemoths. Amazing! The best indicator of sprint ability is max-speed. DD who isn't a speedster was 4th fastest at 3.18. He's 6'1 and about 170still has a lot of filling out to do, so I'm sure his time might get down a tad bit more before its all said and done. The time differences were evenly distributed between 0. The biggest issue with the little kids has been the size of the field and swinging the BBCOR bat. This section breaks down divisional recruiting guidelines to give recruits and their families a better understanding of what will be expected of them at each position.
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