I still dont think he understands the harms he has done. Watch LIVE every Sunday at 9am, 10:45am, 12:30pm, and 7pm as well as every Wednesday at 7pm. As a result, the IRS has guidelines on their political activity. I sincerely hope Mark Driscoll's remarks are about this specific passage and not about himself. Wonder what else is in the Acts29 playbook that we havent seen yet! Why should we be surprised? There is no uncertainty in that. God, I am running for your heart until my soul is on fire?. The point of closed systems is to keep them closed. What is tragic is that these events will lead everyone who has two braincells to rub together to come to the following default conclusions: So quick question if anyone wants to take a whack at it. You can learn a lot about someones character from how they treat those who are below them in status. In 2002, Agathos began as a ministry to rescue orphans in Africa during the peak of the out-of-control HIV/AIDS crisis. . https://musingsfromunderthebus.wordpress.com/2015/02/13/mars-hill-church-true-religion-does-not-abandon-orphans-and-widows-in-their-distress/. We are believing this 5-day event will change your life! Sovereign Grace Ministries He wants to release you from that burden and bondage, they haven't asked for forgiveness? What I didnt know until this year is how much they are invading their universities as well. I am sorry if anything I wrote about Che offended you. When Robert brags about lunching with Greg Abbott, golfing with George W Bush or being Rick Santorums spiritual advisor, it makes me feel ill. It is deceiving men so they will be more inclined to pay those 500+ employees their hundred thousand dollar pay packages. No ownership and everyone else is to blame. But I did find this on the IRS website: A tax-exempt organization "may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.". So many use Ches image as some sort of inspirational symbol. Please call upon Jesus today, you will be very glad you did! They are not good for him, and he not good for the people he leads. I think Dr Fundy left out the irony/sarcasm tags introduced with HTML 5.5. (KY3) - OZARK, Mo. This has nothing to do with the recent downfall of Mark and demise of Mars Hill. Does it lie with Driscoll/Chandler or does it lie with the people whom they want to trust them? Of course, the major players seem to emulate and incorporate some of the more questionable practices of each other so in a way we are ending up with a somewhat homogenous giga experience like GW having one of those Guest Central kiosks you mentioned. When he walked up to speak with me I politely told him neednt spend time with me because I lived about 4 hours away RT and, therefore, wouldnt be attending his church again. And Ive certainly heard many tales of people who were awful people moving onto ministry later on in life. Maybe six months from now, therell be another terrible story, and well know that the BSd us. Week of Power with Bill Johnson & Randy Clark Sunday, March 12 - Thursday March 16. now i am going to see if i can stand to listen to the whole mark speaks video. :o) I would view it like this: If there are reports of a scandal or problems at a church, they are worth investigating with openess and transparancy. It genuinely didnt occur to me that he was just a good, decent man who might care about Gods children regardless of their zip code. http://www.richmond.com/news/local/city-of-richmond/article_4d131547-f913-5d43-bfc5-5a292f4c27e1.html, What I dont get is why Hillsong and Assemblies of God (James River Church), who have extremely different views on women in the church would even consider someone like Mark Driscoll as a special speaker. What I saw was the 2 verses that I had typed on a 35 card and tacked to my bulletin board. But I never want to deliberately post any false information so I do appreciate any corrections you can add. Some guys I knew in Tucson called this shining the Stupid Ray on people.. The best thing about it is one young woman had incredible courage. I read your comment and have thought about this a lot. What Im curious though is how the church (corporate) can self regulate against that in the face of the money and power, both spiritual and temporal, that types like MD help create. Im a done for now but that one meeting made we wonder if I could someday find a narrow gate church like the cult expert said. OZARK, Mo. Driscoll, IMHO, is completely unsuited for any position of authority. 16 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD. In Driscolls case he didnt even offer up the grudging apology specifically for the lives he ruined, the corruption, or the abuse of those at Mars Hill. He needs a revenue stream and using Jesus is all he knows. Bob, I loved your comment. Sometimes the writers have an agenda, at others, there is more of an assumption of knowledge that the original readers/hearers possessed that we dont. and humility i think is something that is a mark of a true christian that cant be faked, it always looks fake when people try to do that. I'm not sure I find that expansion of "serious sin" cheating? You want to go all Colonel Jessup and rant about the truth? This can be anything from praying for people over the phone to working in the Online Campus studio. It does not mean that forgiveness is lacking. What do you think, Albuquerque? (Note I did not diagnose) I do believe seen in that light, it makes it simpler to see how he gets by with it and why some who also make their living in similar ways are promoting him. Im trying to get people to understand it because theres a whole lot of stuff thats out there thats being said, much of it is just just simply not even close to truth. If you become used to a certain standard of living, that does not mean you are entitled to that standard of living. GW is also currently preaching John Hagees End Times Armageddon sermons to pump up the numbers, claiming the Rapture WILL take place prior to 12-31-18, in order to scare folks into those spontaneous tubs. In your mega travels, Lydia, whats the biggest honorarium from tithe dollars you have been privy to? Its all good until (insert question or issue). He essentially called the Driscoll victims liars and persecutors. starts with: https://wonderingeagle.wordpress.com/2015/06/12/how-to-respond-to-a-faith-crisis-establishing-and-building-trust/. I wish I knewits beyond comprehension. I dont see him pastoring a church and I am not even sure his legal problems from the last one are over. Thats why every post they make against corrupt churches matters. well this world is full of executives that get caught in sin and crime and immorality that give wonderful speeches of how sorry they are and then they turn around and get a promotion and never give a single thought to the people they destroyed on their way to the top. Is this similar to Radical Chic? The true character of a man shows when you see how he treats those with less power who depend on him for his income. No coffee bar, etc. They just want to give us a little more time and "context" to receive the brilliance. Or (referring to Joseph) how to achieve your dreams. © 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 - The Wartburg Watch. The disciples send him off to Tarsus and after that-there was peace for a time in the churches in Judea, Galilee and Samaria.:o). (KY3) - James River Church responded Monday to complaints after social media images show little social distancing and few masks at its Christmas celebrations. kinda like a person who has been abused i think, they sometimes have to get past that people may judge them for being stupid for falling for it, or they have to reconcile with the results of them speaking out, shunning, slander ie: the church calls them heretics because they dont attend anymore. Youre not one of us. Would you hire back the embezzler to count your cash drawer after he served a short sentence because you forgave him? How to Resign from a Church Anyone who knowingly overlooks all this has no judgement. Some people believe that God put them there. Somebody cited a study that the most common characteristic of a Sociopath (well over 90%) was successfully Playing the Victim Card when caught. He was an abusing thug. They stirred up the people now the mob is forming. arrogant, a lover of money, Hasnt it been around long enough that either people (especially younger guys) are sick of it, or they have finally realized its harmful or obnoxious? The guests are members and attendees (because many regulars never joined). If, as a teacher, you realise that you hate students, you must give up your job and find something else. The prophets in that verse are likewise OT prophets and also refers only to physical harm. Its what he does. . With BHouston, JLindell and MD there is no hope. The emails we received were similarly written. There will be a day of reckoning. Youre not one of us. hee hee. . I recently darkened the doors of a very small church in another city. They wear what they believe are trendy shirts typically untucked to cover the middle aged spread with skinny jeans. mark chose to step down not mark was removed. i dont know what the answer is except to not get under the pastor leader concept ever. 99,693 were here. I tend to doubt it but who knows. The bathrooms were tiny and not particularly nice. i havent seen any video or statement where he has actually apologized for anything except being mean when he should have been nicer in throwing people under the bus, shoulda offered them a pillow maybe so they didnt hit the ground so hard, but totally right in throwing them. Gus, it is very naive not to take into consideration that Driscolls constant media attention did not influence the TVC response to their own problem in any way. Also, there is a difference, IMO, between forgiveness and trust restoration. Pokin has been at the paper three years and over the course of his career has covered just about everything from courts and cops to features and fitness. For those who follow celebrities, I dont, this is the church that made it into the news last year. There is no reason why he should be a pastor again. peaceable disposition. Having a large following for a while, being insulated from most of reality, produces this result. The Jews in Damascus want to kill him and he is snuck out of town by believers. But, as you said, there is no substitute for a work of the Holy Spirit. I had been a pastor and fell horribly due to pride, arrogance, self centeredness, fear of man, desire for fame, etc. I think Christians make a huge mistake when looking at patterns of spiritual abuse, deception and tyranny as whether or not they are criminal according to our laws. Just show-biz. I asked people who were about as famous (if that is what you call it) as him what they thought. I believe this is the 2 Thessalonians time period so it will become increasingly more difficult to avoid false teachers. The name Che is a nickname, short for pig (chancho), for a reason. They are relinquishing 10-20% of their gross income. Really? The question may even be wrong, maybe it isnt what is the church but who is. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/oct/07/hillsong-pastor-brian-houston-found-fathers-sex-abuse-confession-agonising Guess well see. Che is somewhat of a romantic figure for a lot of people which is why bringing him up can be uncomfortable. Well, we can handle the truth. All the more reason that Driscoll appears arrogant and pompous to me and doesnt at all seem to understand the damage hes caused.
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